Astto

I'm sorry that you are frustrated with GCP. Our philosophy is to produce a piece of software which will allow multi-boxers to get the maximum out of their party capabilities. Often this means that, on occasions, toons will be preforming different functions at the same time. GCP was developed to support this capability with advanced tools.

Realizing that this would require users to spend more time in order to get the most from GCP, we implemented a "wizard" system to fast track through a "get you going" setup.

In version 2 we are including an enhanced wizard system, and will be including many more wizards to cope with different requirements. One of these will be to enable users to quickly define a number of keys to be "cloned".

GCP operates on a principal of sending keys only to to active character, unless the key is defined to do something else (such as cast a spell on all toons). In order to do what you describe, you would have to define actions (which define what each character is to do) and bind them to a key. I admit this takes longer initially, but is much more flexible as your needs progress. We will add support to make this easier in version 2.

Multi boxing is, by its nature, more complicated than operating a single character. It requires an ability to multi-task and more planning. It is for this reason, I suspect, that you have gained the impression that multi-boxing software is all difficult to set up.

We are constantly trying to improve our software, and I think that we already have a plan to deal with the issue that forms the main basis of your complaint. If you could be more specific about the issues that you are having, then we'll do our best to help.

Once again, I'm sorry for your frustration and hope that we can resolve your issues.

Thanks

Phil

I too was very frustrated before I descided to just trust you guys and buy the software. I am happy with it most days. I WISH that there were a couple of pre-loaded wizards that we could click radio boxes on that just do the stuff.

So we could choose to turn on X Y and Z and not search for drop down that most of us do not know what they mean. I like the DO THIS FIRST button, but is it is REQUIRED it should simply autoload.

I would LOVE to see a screen of radio buttons that we could just nab the stuff we want to start. Autofollow, AutoJoin, INTERACT and a box to set its key! I live and die by interact while multiboxing. and teh SWAP key (G) should always be available.

Just me .02

Razcal

I love this software!

Razcal

Actually they are lists with check boxes - but the functionality is as you describe (our latest addition to version 2 - will be out by the end of this weekend)

Phil

I love this software, although I wasn't happy at first, I asked myself what have I gotten into.?? I realized this could be hard to get past the learning curve. Luckily GCP has great support, I told Jeremy I would let him know before I was about to give up and proceeded to try and learn it.

One might say that multi-boxing will complicate the game by a multiple of the # of toons played, but with the features of GCP this is not true.

This software was my 1st exposure to multi-boxing. I did check out and even bought another.

List of obsticales I had to overcome.

Learn software, ie macros and GCP in general.
Get past the minor problems with the program as they are still fixing stuff.
Learn different classes, and how they work together in a group.
Learn to redo macros often times every 2 levels at lower levels, or a least for every special circumstance in instances, special boss tactics.
Learn to use the keyboard for other than arrow keys for movement, Was a hot key clicker only for a long time.

My final opinion.

Multi-boxing and macro's go hand in hand, you must learn how to make sometimes complicated macros work, as we all have different set-ups and styles in the way we play. No company not GCP, Keyclone or IS can account for and program there system to make things easy, They can however program to make things easier and GCP does the best job in my opinion. Plus excellent support.

Thank you GCP crew
Curt

I learn most of what I know from Zwipple in the Tips and tricks postings. Good to read this stuff.

I, too, had to take a bit of time to figure things out... but once I got a handle on things, it's just been amazing!

It's MUCH, MUCH more than a simple key-press replicator on multiple WoW's that you are running.

Take some time with it... and when you're stuck, be sure to post a message on the Support forum. The GCP crew has been awesome with response and help.

~BlueGriffon

Actually, I think the GCP crew has done a great job with this program. I know people might want things to be point and click, but in all honesty the ability to control multiple characters with an oversimplified program wouldn't have me buying the program.

This program is very versatile for those who are pretty serious about how their characters respond and to be honest even if it could be a bit simpler to do, they have done a very good job of making it work for a variety of users without violating warcraft's terms for use. You really need to give them credit for all their hard work.

Besides, I've checked out the Beta, and although it's not exactly polished to where I would want to use it yet, it's definately showing many great improvements. It's only going to get better.

It does seems to cover about anything you would ever need. I would buy a retail version if I could figure out one thing - how do I make 2 tunes follow each other continuously. If I can't get it to do the most basic need of boxing, then the rest is pointless. I feel dumb that I can't figure this one out.

I gave it a solid 5hr attemp to get a basic function working - Follow without both tunes going in opposite directions - brutal.

GCP looks like it is getting better and better - I'll try the next version. Remeber guys - most of your potential new customers are not going to have average tech skills. If they can get 1 or 2 things working, that does not mean the program is successful - it just means that the other 98% is way to complicated to be worth the effort - not everyone can sit at a PC for 10hrs/day and try to config your product.

I think it looks great - your challenge would be to create a balance between the programs capabilities and being easy to use for about 70% of the users out there that would give you money. I would pay double your current price if I could learn to use 50% of it's capabilities.

I think this is where I'm at. I can figure things out, given enough time. But for the average Joe, I think 5 minutes - 5 toons is pushing it.

We do recognize this and have been working to make the system more user friendly to first time users. For now wee offer full support and will sit down and chat live with you to get you up and running or solve any issue you are having. Just message us with a time you are available or check out Support Chat to see if we are online.

Well, i was frustraded too at the start, But comes time comes Skill.
Practise... practise and practise ...
handle out a good Team a good Layout . and let the party go on
Best combo for me is
1 warrior (tank)
2 Druid (Half Dps half heal)
3 Mage (DPS)
4 Shaman (Half dps half heal)

With that combo you cant die in every raid
your druid can switch for Dmg and Heals .
its easy as that

I know this thread is a bit older but just incase anyone else is working their way through them I will add my 2 cents.

Dual Boxing by it's very nature is more difficult than running one toon. That said, if you look around at the alternatives to GameCommanderPro you will not find anything which is plug and play with no work or set up. I know because I looked at all the alternatives I could find before buying GameCommander. They ranged from practicaly needing to be a software engineer to something a little closer to my level :) ie read GameCommanderPro

Of everything I looked at including the ones I took the free trials of GameCommanderPro was the most straight forward. Does that mean there is no learning curve, absolutely not, but what program does not? Even something as simple as Word has some learning to get the most out of it. I have only been using GameCommander for two weeks or so and I'm sure I am not using a tenth of its potential.

Staight out of the box there were a couple of things I could not figure out right away, but the customer service here has been awesome! Now I am reading my way through the posts to see what else I can learn.

Just don't give up.

Comes Time... Comes Skill.
Easy as that.
Iam totally indeed with your reply Drake. What i know are the BAsics till now.
But iam sure i can learn more about BOxing. Iam totally new with that. Tested also other Progs like Pwnboxer etc. etc. But not even 1 prog is simple as Gamecommander pro. Set up layout, Set up Team, Launch, Activate...
And let the Party begin.. Easy as that.
With pwnboxer i had shitload of Macros. But ther eis one thing i don't get. And iam sure no one is able to leanr me it.
Saw some Vids on Youtube. with 5 Shammys Boxing in 5v5. His team is rang 1 <.< What i dont get is.
How the hell can he Turn his targets so fast to the Opponents. I mean the Opponents wont Stay in 1 place. They Will Stay in Seperate places like always. So how can the Boxer switch to the target when a Rog Quickly stay behind them.
My Boxing chars are still on FollowingMode. I know there is a way with Shift+(W,A,S,D) But its not the same as in the Vids.
I want to learn anyhting about Boxing. And am trying to be the best on my server.
But its hard, Cuz as i said iam new, and i dont have any experience.
And if my main char Died. The other windows are Smaller than the First Wow Window.
I need to fast Press "G" on a other WIndow to switch... but that takes like 5-10 Sec.. Important 5 sec to Survieve and win the Battle.
pheeeew, Nuff said for now :)
Any idea?
Any Tips for me with boxing shamans?

Pat

Sorry for my scarry Englisch xD

I have some suggestions:

If the screen switch is taking to long, it's probably because you're overworking your graphics card. My suggestion is to turn down the graphics. From the edit layout screen, right click and choose video settings. Select low for all of them to start with. If that works OK, next try medium on your main BUT turn off shadow quality. Remember to hit save when you are done. Just have sound on your main. (the low turns it off). On my system, the switch is less than a second.

You can turn your alts by using the shift key. I suggest you practice with this, as it's key to making things smoother.

You can also set up some commands to turn everyone. This is the procedure:

1. To create a command, switch mode to "Full" (to change back later click system/mode)
2. Click views/advanced
3. Click Add.
4. Enter a name (lets say "AllLeft").
5. In the edit box, enter the following:

   <<All>>
   Press A
   

6. Save this command (click save)
7. Create another command "AllLeftUp".
8. In this command enter:

   <<All>>
   Release A
   

9. Save.
10. Find the commands you just made in the commands list.
11. Press and HOLD the left arrow key. You will see the words "Left Down" in the center of the screen.
12. Click the "All Left" command in the list box, then the text box containing "Left Down". This will assign the first command to the down press of the left arrow.
13. Release the left arrow, and the box will change to say "Left Up"
14. Click the command "All Left Up"
15. Click the text box "Left Up"

So.. what we've done is to create 2 commands. The first tells them all to press the A key when we press the left arrow key, and the second to release the A key when we release the left arrow key.

You should now create the equivalent command for your right arrow (use press D and release D in these).

Phil

I will try that. For sure :)

I wish i could have your Knowledge :/
lol